Wednesday, April 28, 2010

Telling it how it is

Why is it outrageous to call someone a bigot if that is exactly what they are?


Blogger Crux Fidelis said...

Not just a bigot but a stupid bigot. "Where are all these East Europeans flocking from?"

Anyway we've all done what Brown did yesterday - and it is embarrassing.

4/29/2010 4:22 AM  
Anonymous berenike said...

Why's she a bigot? I've not seen the meeting, just read about it, but she's entitled to her worries, surely?

It's labelling people as beyond the pale for expressing a thought that pisses them off and turns them into fanatics or bigots or whatever.


a first-generation (foreign-born) East European immigrant to the UK.

4/30/2010 12:32 AM  
Anonymous Steve Jones said...

I'm not sure how you can describe somebody as a bigot on the basis of a few words on a sensitive subject which can easily be interpreted as expressing concerns about the economic impact on the poorly paid through competition for jobs. Polly Toynbee for one has noted exactly that. Is she a bigot too?

Now it may be that this is an incorrect assessment of the economic impact of mass immigration, but it is not bigotry. Bigotry is a blind belief in your own values and the dismissal of those of others. Worrying about competition for jobs, or housing, or welfare, or schooling may or may not be misconceived, it might even be viewed as selfish, but it's not bigotry.

Also, it is profoundly wrong to compliment somebody to their face, saying they are a good family and then dismiss them as bigoted. That's called hypocrisy.

I for one am heartily fed up with folk who demonise others based on the flimsiest of evidence. It's often just a way of closing down debates and refusing to engage in the discussion of difficult issues.

In short, it is not wrong to call a bigot a bigot, but it's only if you would be prepared to say so to their face and make very sure of the facts.

As it is, this is a lazy, intellectually bankrupt post which simplifies a complex issue and demonises what would appear to be a woman some basic decent values. Maybe she does just dislike Poles or Bulgarians for who they are, but there's no way of knowing from what she said, and nobody appears to have produced any evidence on the matter.

Would you really be prepared to say to this woman to her face, based on what you know from the media reports alone, that she is bigoted and why you believe so?

5/01/2010 3:28 AM  

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